Maniacal Love and Chaos

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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
kokamoka09
thewolfofthestars

So ya boi went off today

rarilee33

Hard agree with this one

unrelentingelsens

YES ONG I HAD A FRIEND WHO WALKED

ACROSS A HIGHWAY

TO GET HOME FROM SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAD NO CAR I FUCKING HATE CARS

skittlechild

FUCK CARS

phoenixyfriend

This seems like a wonderful opportunity to direct people at Not Just Bikes and Climate Town, two channels that touch a lot on why the above has happened, and the ways you can help fix it.

(Pssst, go to local town meetings! Especially when they’re planning on talking about zoning laws!)

Here’s one of each!

//I am literally shopping for my first car now and fuck everything about cars fucking goddamn. for those who need it cars fuck cars hate cars urban sprawl
chaos-cascade
the-overthinktank

Western style dragons are profoundly mid to me, but i try to keep my trap shut about that because i don't want to be the no fun allowed guy for a very popular creature design. But i cannot contain my rage about spoon wings. I hate them so much. Nothing with a patagium looks like that or flies like that. It doesnt matter how many polygons your beast has, my immersion has been shattered by half of its flight surface being straight up gone

the-overthinktank

For the people wondering what spoon wings means. Flying animals with a patagium generally have a flight surface that goes down the side of their body to at LEAST the rear leg. This is to maximize surface area for lift and support the weight of the lower body during flight

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whereas cgi dragons shooting for an aesthetic of realism are lucky to have a wing membrane that goes down past their ribcage, despite having much heavier legs and tails than the average flying vertebrate. Also there is a tendency to give them a disproportionately broad "hand" which is a wing ratio I've only seen in tiny insects.

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I think the reason so many dragons are designed this way (besides cultural inertia) is because the people modeling and animating dragons find a longer patagium inconvenient, since it has a tendency to cover up parts of the animal outside of flight or get pulled around by body movement in ways that a spoon wing doesn't.

Anyways the point is I hate this design trope. I don't like to look at giant stupid wing hands on twiggy arms. I think it is uncooler than realistic wing ratios.

headspace-hotel

LOVE that we're coming up with names for specific dragon design fails. This is the right thing to do.

headspace-hotel

Other common dragon design features that are irrationally annoying:

Dragon Greebling: When a creature design is just...really...really.......really Textured in a way that defies logic, for no reason other than to make it look detailed and visually busy.

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Chicken Arms: When the wing elbows are permanently bent at a 90 degree angle even when the wings are extended

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Finger Elbows: When the elbows have an extra finger extending from them for some reason?

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I'm not sure what to call this, but when the "fingers" of the wing extend waaay past the wing membrane

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aka why this thing looks so Bad

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This dragon from the "wizarding world" website has one of the worst wing designs i've seen in a while, with the wing membrane attaching to the upper arm

Yeah I have a lot of opinions about dragons.

idk-my-aesthetic

I was mostly agreeing until you insulted the flight rising nocturnes (second to last picture) and now I’m deeply offended

Like, yes the “fingers” extend very long but it helps give them an interesting silhouette and ties into the way the design combines a lot of round and pointed shapes

I do think there’s an interesting conversation to be had about realism VS creative freedom VS ppl just blindly following artistic trends without analyzing them

Like, when you’re designing fantasy creatures an amount of adherence to real world physics helps avoid ridiculous looking spoon-wings or arms that are permanently bent for no reason

But sometimes it makes sense to go against the laws of physics when it works with the design

Bc good design work will oftentimes express things about the characters with the design. Like the dragon with the weird finger elbows(4th pic from the bottom), if you focus on it from a evolutionary standpoint it’s kinda dumb but in that picture with its posture it gives the picture a sort of regal energy, looking sort of like the back of a throne or a cape

I think the reason these images become problems is because like. When you’re defying the rules of general physics/evolution for an artistic reason it can be cool or interesting. But then people will just take those elements without understanding the function of them and combine them at random.

and you end up with something like the last dragon that looks like it shouldn’t be able to fly according to all know laws of aviation

TLDR: unrealistic designs like this can be okay if there’s an artistic purpose but oftentimes they look ridiculous because people use them without putting thought into it

headspace-hotel

On further thought, I find that I agree on this. I think the deal breaker for me is when the design lacks a unified and dynamic look that suggests how the dragon moves or (if animated) looks fluid and alive when moving, and generally just makes it seem like a living creature

Like this piece by Haskiens on DeviantArt

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Like, sure, his wing membrane ends above his hip, but it's easy to see how his wings would extend and move

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mallymun
alice-of-the-castle

I have never heard of Norman Rockwell. I don’t understand anything about art. But this picture shook me and caused a storm of emotions. It is called Breaking Home Ties, 1954

The boy is going to a Uni and wearing his best outfit; the Uni sticker is on his luggage, even his tie and his socks are the colours of the sticker. He is excited and impatient. The father - obviously a farmer, is sitting at the worn farm truck with a flag and a storm lamp, because their place is so small the train won’t normally stop there, so the father will need to “catch” the train and signal with the light and the flag for it to stop.

His son will never come back to the farm.  

I think I understand why this picture sold at 15,4 million dollars in 2006. 

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millie1098

Great paintings by Norman Rockwell of everyday Americana.

striving-artist

Norman Rockwell specialized in exactly this, OP. You can look at almost all of his paintings and find a story in it. Some are sweet, some are poignant, some just show family. They are all stories, and they all have story woven into every single detail.

And because it is my favorite, this is “Shiner”

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lankyguy

Rockwell’s mentor was A.C. Leyendecker best known for his illustrations of the Arrow Collar shirt man. The model was Leyendecker’s lover. Rockwell was a pallbearer at Leyendecker’s funeral.

vaspider

Rockwell’s paintings also dealt quite a bit with social issues as he got older and after the Saturday Evening Post made him remove a Black person from an image bc Black people “could only depicted in service jobs”.

As a result he left the Post & created (among other works) The Problem We All Live With and Murder in Mississippi.

sunshine-tattoo

and here i was thinking he was a bootlicker. Mr. Rockwell i am so sorry you are a true hero.

art history Norman Rockwell gud art //How have I never seen the first painting?! 🥺
mallymun
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putnamspuppeteer

For those who don't know: Ikumi Nakamura is the woman who was senior artist on Bayonetta, and designed the titular character along with Hideki Kamiya. Their greatest moment of bonding was over their insistence that Bayonetta keep her glasses on at all times.

Nakamura cannot go to horny jail. She is the warden.

brookietf

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catgirlforeskin

Happy pride month to her and her exclusively

seraphiminn

she made a comic about the experience on twitter

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chillywillow1

Wlw girlboss warden

beautiful people wlw girlboss warden Bayonutters
one-time-i-dreamt
theuniceon

Anything to do with Croatia ever: *happens*

Tumblr:

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@one-time-i-dreamt

one-time-i-dreamt

Me when I get summoned to another post about Croatia:

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one-time-i-dreamt

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I promise you that no one in Croatia knows who I am

one-time-i-dreamt

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one-time-i-dreamt

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I don't know who Mark is but 6'4 is pretty tall!

midlifecrisis2021

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theuniceon

I’m glad my silly badly edited meme has ended with one-time-I-dreamt dot tumblr dot com being declared a certified prophet in accordance to the teachings of Jesus Christ

Thank you to all involved, but especially tall mark

darthsylveon

I can assure you markiplier is not tall

one-time-i-dreamt

He is taller than me!

usefuljesbian

Markiplier is Croatian?

one-time-i-dreamt

I loled long post one time i dreamt Croatia memey things
artdork707
vaspider

Feeding AI your likeness is bad. No matter what they say they will or won’t use it for, always assume that they can and will use it. Don’t give them the opportunity. This goes for your art, voice and music as well. https://t.co/uZhXL4C4ZJ  — Austin Lee Matthews (@amtraxVA) December 3, 2022ALT
satellite-slickers

friendly reminder that ai is not an automatic collage machine, and is not the devil, and i am sick of the fearmongering

i would give my writing an ai, i dont care, because i know how it actually works and knows that it doesnt fucking matter.

vaspider

Unfriendly fucking reminder that AI is a copyright violating machine, that the original AI projects were funded by Elon Fucking Musk because he does not see value in the work of artists, and that AIs have problems with constantly putting signatures and watermarks back into art

BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAINED ON SO MUCH STOLEN, COPYRIGHT-VIOLATING ART.

Implying that those of us who have moral objections to AI art (and writing) are "fearmongering" or that we just don't know what we're talking about ignores the very very blatant art theft occurring.

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But no, AI art doesn't steal! That's why it's totally not reproducing watermarks here!

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Or here!

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Or signatures and copyright lines in all of these!

When you feed the AI which is BASED ON STOLEN ART, you are telling thieves that you're cool with art being stolen as long as you get something temporary, free and momentarily cool.

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Fuck off. ^__^

vaspider

*rubs temples*

SO ANYWAY, LIKE I WAS SAYING.

sgdi

Remember, once your image or text is in a training set for an AI, it's practically impossible for it to unlearn what it has been trained on. These AI are not setup to forget.

teaboot

....what I'm hearing is, post mangled bullshit to AI training sources

footnotesnake

one more reminder: many AIs especially any using CommonCrawl already stole art. Years ago. CommonCrawl has been crawling without notifying any sites it crawled for years. This is not a new theft.

And very likely any protest based feeding of an AI will not surmount to much unless you are feeding a new, shall we say hungry, AI. The reason this example works is because people have been watermarking and signing off for years.

We are finally seeing a broader audience be introduced to the fruits of old theft.

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thatdogmagic
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...that your audience won't hate.

This is a method I started using when NFTs were on the rise - thieves would have to put actual work into getting rid of the mark - and one that I am now grateful for with the arrival of AI. Why? Because anyone who tries to train an AI on my work will end up with random, disruptive color blobs.

I can't say for sure it'll stop theft entirely, but it WILL make your images annoying for databases to incorporate, and add an extra layer of inconvenience for thieves. So as far as I'm concerned, that's a win/win.

I'll be showing the steps in CSP, but it should all be pretty easy to replicate in Photoshop.

Now: let's use the above image as our new signature file. I set mine to be 2500 x 1000 pixels when I'm just starting out.

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